what needs 230V?

[pjstock]

I am "talking" to some North American people about how best to make my JC work with 120v shore power and I need to understand something

Except for the 12V battery charger (which is labelled 230V and so would have to be swapped out, which I would rather not do) is there anything else in the cabin of a JC that requires 230V?

If I understand correctly most things run off the 12V aux batteries. so if I keep them charged, everything should work. Yes?

the fridge, the interior lights..... what else?
this JC already has 12V cigarette lighter and USB sockets that work..

The two (I have only found two so far) domestic sockets would deliver 230V when on shore power but I think I can work around that.

Is there anything else that requires 230V when on shore power?
cabin heater? (no), hot water heater? (no)

the "plan" at this point is to use a Step Up transformer to deliver 230V to the exterior Commando plug.
and then a Step Down transformer to convert the domestic outlets to 120V

[Boxerspezi]

Hello pjstock,
there is nothing in your Cook that requires 230V or 120V. Only the battery charger requires shore power. You should replace this charger (230V) with one for American 120V.
Greetings
George

[pjstock]

replacing the charger is an option
However it has been pointed out to me that if I try to use 120V shore power (to a 120V charger) the amperage is higher and the original wire gauge may not be sufficient for the increased Amperage.
should that be a concern?

I am still thinking that simply using a Step Up transformer to convert 120V to 240V before it hits the Input on the side of the van might be an easier solution.

[komposti]

Hast Du denn Elektrogeräte die Du im Bus mit 230 Volt an den Steckdosen betreiben möchtest?
Bei Euch sind doch alle Elektrogeräte auf diese 110 Volt abgestimmt.
Ich denke Du solltest die Steckdosen im Bus auf die 110 Volt Variante umbauen und das Ladegerät ebenfalls ändern.
Meine Meinung ...

BG Thomas

[AndiP]

I'm shure you can swap charger to 110V
Open the case and look for jumpers 110/230V

[CookOverland]

I think you are complicating things for yourself.
By the description on the cover, looks like the Fraron charger is made to be used in Japan, North America and EU.
The benefit of buying it is also that you can switch painlessly to the new types of LifePo batteries with it, old charger does not support them.
If you have doubts, shoot an email to Fraron, I am sure they will put your mind at ease.
You also have breakers set up in the system that should prevent any issues.

There is hundreds if not thousands imported from Japan and Europe Westfalias in North America and I highly doubt that any of them have different than factory wiring.

[pjstock]

I'm shure you can swap charger to 110V
Open the case and look for jumpers 110/230V

I have opened it up.
there are removal fuses. But I do not see any switches that I could change.

[pjstock]

Hast Du denn Elektrogeräte die Du im Bus mit 230 Volt an den Steckdosen betreiben möchtest?

No I won't have any 230v devices to connect to the outlets.
but every electrician I have spoken to is concerned about the wire gauge if switching from 230 to 115

I'll speak to Fraron.

[AndiP]

Natürlich wird der Strom bei halber Spannung doppelt so groß, wenn die Leistung gleich bleibt.
Die Sicherung im James ist ausgelegt auf 10A (habe ich geraten, vielleicht ein anderer Wert). Du kannst statt 2300W bei 230V nur noch 1100W bei 110V nutzen. Die Sicherung solltest du nicht auf 20A vergrößern, um wieder 2200W nutzen können. Dann müsstest du tatsächlich die Leitungsquerschnitte (wire gauge) vergrößern.
Leistung = Spannung x Strom.
Ich hoffe, ich habe die Problematik verständlich erklärt.

Fraron nach einer Umbaumöglichkeit zu fragen, ist richtig.

Andi

[komposti]

Oder erst mal den Leitungsquerschnitt prüfen, vielleicht geht´s ja ...
BG Thomas